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Sabra ahora dice que no sabe el paradero obispos
Publicado: 24 de mayo 2013, Nuri Kino
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El líder de la coalición de la oposición siria está alejando de los informes anteriores que él está seguro de la ubicación y el estado de dos obispos ortodoxos sirios secuestrados 22 de abril.

George Sabra, presidente de la Coalición Nacional de Siria, dijo a World Watch monitor el 21 de mayo no se informa de los movimientos de los obispos en el día a día, o de la identidad de los captores. Este es un cambio de 7 de mayo de declaraciones atribuidas a Sabra durante una reunión de los líderes de Oriente Medio en Beirut.

Sabra también dijo a World Watch Monitor de la coalición es "hacer todo lo posible" para expulsar a los pocos musulmanes que han venido de Europa, a instancias de los grupos yihadistas, con enlaces al-Qaeda que cuentan entre la oposición siria en general.

Yohanna Ibrahim, jefe de la Iglesia ortodoxa siria de Alepo, fue secuestrado junto a su homólogo de la Iglesia Ortodoxa Griega, Boulos Yaziji, después de viajar a la frontera con Turquía en un intento por lograr la liberación de los dos sacerdotes secuestrados en febrero. Su conductor, Fathallah Kaboud, más tarde fue asesinado.

Aparte de una ráfaga inicial de informes erróneos que los clérigos habían sido puestos en libertad, poco se supo de su paradero, que les arrebató, ni por qué.

Eso cambió el 07 de mayo, cuando Amin Gemayel, ex presidente de Líbano y actual líder de su partido Kataeb, que se celebró una reunión en su oficina de Beirut.

"Los obispos están en buena salud y están en manos de un grupo pequeño en un pueblo llamado Bshaqtin, a 20 kilómetros al noroeste de Alepo," Sabra dijo Gemayel por teléfono durante el meeing, de acuerdo con el Líbano Estrella .

Asistieron a la reunión Adjunto Obispo de Aleppo Joseph Shapiro, del Monte Líbano siriaco ortodoxo Obispo George Saliba, de Beirut Obispo Daniel Koriyeh y Presidente de la Liga sirio Habib Afram.

Afram dijo World Watch Supervisar el grupo había buscado el encuentro con Gemayel en busca de su ayuda en lograr la libertad de los obispos. En cambio, dijo, oyeron Sabra les dijo que era incapaz de ayudar.

"Durante nuestra reunión, el líder opositor sirio George Sabra habló tanto con Cheikh Gemayel y el obispo Saliba por teléfono. Sabra afirmó que él sabe dónde están los obispos secuestrados son y quiénes son los secuestradores. Me parece indignante que uno de los líderes más poderosos de la oposición siria dice que sabe donde están, pero no pueden hacer nada para ponerlos en libertad ".

Afram, Secretario General de la Unión de Ligas de cristianos libaneses y un defensor prominente de la suerte de los cristianos en el Medio Oriente, dijo que la incapacidad de Sabra para asegurar la liberación de los obispos se preocupa implicaciones para el futuro de los cristianos en Siria.

"Sabra dijo cosas como:". Esto no da una buena impresión de nuestra revolución y nos comprometemos a tomar todas las medidas posibles para que sean liberados "Pero eso es sólo palabras", dijo Afram. "Hemos hecho hincapié en que si él no puede controlar su propia área - el lugar donde fueron secuestrados los obispos - ¿cómo puede entonces afirmar que él puede cambiar Siria para mejor Y ¿cómo va a ser capaz de hacer que los cristianos permanezcan en Siria?"

Contactado 21 de mayo por el World Watch Monitor, Sabra dio menos cierto contable de los obispos de lo que se informó para dar 7 de mayo.

"Usted sabe que los obispos se mueven siempre día a día o semana a semana. Así que por lo tanto no se sabe exactamente el lugar", dijo.

También dijo que la coalición no está seguro de quién está detrás de los secuestros.

"Acerca de esto tenemos información diferente, tenemos nuevas noticias que vamos a comprobar Tenemos noticias de que están en Aleppo No podemos decir que esta información es verdadera,.. Tenemos que comprobar."

Cuando se le pregunta cómo sabe que los obispos se mueven, si alguien ha hablado con ellos, y si hay alguna evidencia de que están vivos, él respondió: ". Ya sabes, por nuestro pueblo dentro de Siria que interrogaron a los grupos"

"Realmente creemos que están vivos", dijo. "Pero no hay una idea clara de eso. Estamos haciendo nuestro mejor esfuerzo, pero ahora mismo no tuvo éxito."

Miles de cristianos han huido de la violencia en Siria, y los líderes de la iglesia dicen que los secuestros han acelerado el éxodo. Sabra dijo que quiere que los cristianos sirios a permanecer valientes.

"Somos conscientes de la impresión de que este le da a nuestra revolución", dijo. "Pero estamos haciendo todo lo posible. Cristianos sirios han estado viviendo en el país desde hace miles de años. Y deben ser lo suficientemente valiente como para permanecer en su patria."

Sabra, un cristiano, insistió en que no hay evidencia de cristianos sirios están bajo presión debido a su religión, a pesar del testimonio en contra de los cristianos dentro de Siria y los que han huido a Turquía, Líbano y Jordania.

"Tal vez hay algunos pequeños eventos aquí y allá", dijo, "pero no tienen derecho a exagerar con estos eventos que contar como un hecho, como una verdad, de la vida en Siria. Realmente no es cierto. Y la única manera de proteger a los cristianos, en cuanto a proteger a otros sirios, es impulsar el régimen de Bashar al-Assad del poder y comenzar una nueva era en Siria con un estado civil de un Estado democrático, con elecciones, constitución, una ley. Este es lo único que ayudará a todas las personas en Siria de estar protegidas en su país ".

Sabra también rechazó cualquier comparación de los efectos de una guerra civil interminable de Siria a los nacionales cristianas a la huida de los cristianos de la vecina Irak.

"Tenemos dos grandes diferencias principales aquí en Siria", dijo. "Irak fue ocupado por tropas extranjeras, y también tienen un vecino considerado un enemigo de los iraquíes durante muchos años: me refiero a Irán, lo que el efecto de la ocupación y el efecto de los iraníes en Irak causó la situación en Siria tenemos algo diferente.. . Estoy seguro de que los cristianos quedarse a vivir en Siria como lo hicieron hace cientos de años. Es su país. En Siria tenemos miles de iglesias y nadie puede demostrar o dar un ejemplo de una iglesia de ser perseguido por los musulmanes ".

Sin embargo, cuando se pulsa, Sabra reconoció una similitud con Irak de grave preocupación para los cristianos residentes: la presencia de militantes islamistas importados, algunos de ellos alineados con al-Qaeda. Un informe de abril por el Centro Internacional para el Estudio de la Radicalización, en el Kings College de Londres, estima que un poco menos del 10 por ciento de los combatientes de la oposición son de fuera de Siria, y que entre el 7 por ciento y el 10 por ciento de esa fracción proviene de Europa.

"Lamentamos oír hablar de eso", dijo Sabra. "Se nos ha informado acerca de dos jóvenes de Bélgica. Créeme, estamos haciendo todo lo posible para ponerse en contacto con estas personas y para trabajar con la comunidad europea y los gobiernos europeos para salvar sus vidas y enviarlos de vuelta a casa a sus países de forma segura."

Mientras tanto, Afram dijo que cumple con los cristianos que han huido de Siria, todos los días en su oficina en el Líbano. "Las personas son secuestradas cada día para pedir rescate o simplemente para asustar a salir", dijo. "Los cristianos se dirigen sistemáticamente por los secuestros."

Dijo que si los obispos están vivos, Sabra debe emplear el poder de su posición para ganar su libertad.

"George Sabra debe actuar y debe mostrar capacidad de liderazgo, o salir", dijo Afram. "Se debe ejercer una participación directa, incluso arriesgarse a ir él mismo con el ejército de la oposición a negociar la liberación de los obispos,. Hacer una declaración clara sobre la [oposición] que los obispos fueron tratados así"


 Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] Published: May 24, 2013 by Nuri Kino. Syrian opposition leader gave more certain account 2 weeks ago. The leader of the Syrian opposition coalition is backing away from previous reports that he is certain of the location and condition of two Syrian Orthodox bishops kidnapped April 22. George Sabra, president of the Syrian National Coalition, told World Watch Monitor on May 21 he is not informed of the movement of the bishops from day to day, or of the identity of the captors. This is a change from May 7 statements attributed to Sabra during a meeting of Middle East leaders in Beirut. Sabra also told World Watch Monitor the coalition is "doing our best" to expel the handful of Muslims who have come from Europe at the urging of jihadist groups with al-Qaeda links who count themselves among the broader Syrian opposition movement.

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genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] Yohanna Ibrahim, head of the Syriac Orthodox Church in Aleppo, was kidnapped alongside his counterpart from the Greek Orthodox Church, Boulos Yaziji, after travelling to the Turkish border in an attempt to secure the release of two priests kidnapped in February. Their driver, Fathallah Kaboud, later was killed. Apart from an early flurry of erroneous reports that the clerics had been released, little was heard about their whereabouts, who snatched them, or why. That changed May 7 when Amin Gemayel, former president of Lebanon and current leader of its Kataeb Party, held a meeting in his Beirut office. "The bishops are in good health and are being held by a small group in a town called Bshaqtin, 20 kilometers northwest of Aleppo,"

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genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] Sabra told Gemayel by phone during the meeing, according to the Lebanon Star. Attending the meeting were Deputy Bishop of Aleppo Joseph Shabo, Mount Lebanon´s Syriac Orthodox Bishop George Saliba, Beirut´s Bishop Daniel Koriyeh and Syriac League President Habib Afram. Afram told World Watch Monitor the group had sought the meeting with Gemayel to seek his help securing the bishops' release. Instead, he said, they heard Sabra tell them he was powerless to help. "During our meeting, Syrian opposition leader George Sabra spoke with both Cheikh Gemayel and Bishop Saliba over the phone. Sabra claimed that he knows where the abducted bishops are and who the kidnappers are. I find it outrageous that one of the most powerful leaders of the Syrian opposition

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genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] says he knows where they are but can´t do anything to release them." Afram, Secretary General of the Union of Lebanese Christian Leagues and a prominent defender of the fate of Christians in the Middle East, said Sabra's inability to secure the release of the bishops has troubling implications for the future of Christians in Syria. "Sabra said things like: 'This is not giving a good impression of our revolution and we promise to take all possible actions to get them released'. But that is only words," Afram said. "We emphasized that if he can´t control his own area — the place where the bishops were kidnapped — then how can he claim that he can change Syria for the better? And how will he be able to make Christians remain in Syria?"

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genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] Contacted May 21 by World Watch Monitor, Sabra gave a less certain accounting of the bishops than he was reported to give May 7. "You know that the bishops are moved always day by day or from week to week. So therefore we don't know the place exactly," he said. He also said the coalition isn't sure who is behind the kidnappings. "About this we have different information, we have new news that we will check. We have news that they are in Aleppo. We can't say that this information is real; we have to check." When asked how he knows the bishops are moved, if anyone has spoken to them, and if there is any evidence they are alive, he replied: "you know, by our people inside Syria that interrogated the groups."

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genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] "Really we believe that they are alive," he said. "But there is no clear picture of that. We are doing our best, but right now we didn't succeed." Thousands of Christians have fled the violence in Syria, and church leaders say the abductions have accelerated the exodus. Sabra said he wants Syrian Christians to remain courageous. "We are aware of the impression this gives to our revolution," he said. "But we are doing our best. Syrian Christians have been living in the country for thousands of years. And they should be courageous enough to stay in their homeland." Sabra, himself a Christian, insisted there is no evidence Syrian Christians are under pressure because of their religion, despite testimony to the contrary from Christians inside Syria and those that have fled to Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan.

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genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] "Maybe there are some small events here and there," he said, "but we have not the right to exaggerate with these events to tell it as a fact, as a truth, of the life in Syria. Really it is not true. And the only way to protect Christians, as to protect other Syrians, is to push Bashar al-Assad's regime out of power and start a new era in Syria with a civil state, a democratic state, with elections, constitution, a law. This is the only thing which will help all people in Syria to be protected in their country." Sabra also rejected any comparisons of the impact of Syria's drawn-out civil war on Christian nationals to the flight of Christians from neighboring Iraq. "We have two major principal differences here in Syria,"

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genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] he said. "Iraq was occupied by foreign troops, and also they have a neighbour considered an enemy to Iraqis for many years: I mean Iran. So the effect of the occupation and the effect of Iranians inside Iraq caused the situation. In Syria we have something different. I'm sure that Christians will stay and live in Syria as they did for hundreds of years. It's their country. In Syria we have thousands of churches and nobody can prove or give one example of a church being persecuted by Muslims." Still, when pressed, Sabra acknowledged one similarity to Iraq of grave concern to resident Christians: the presence of imported Islamist militants, some of them aligned with al-Qaeda. An April report by the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation, at London's King's College,

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genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] estimates that somewhat less than 10 percent of the opposition fighters are from outside Syria, and that between 7 percent and 10 percent of that fraction come from Europe. "We are sorry to hear about that," Sabra said. "We were informed about two young people from Belgium. Believe me, we are doing our best to contact these people and to operate with the European community and the European governments to save their lives and send them back home to their countries safely."Meanwhile, Afram said he meets with Christians that have fled Syria every day in his office in Lebanon. "People are kidnapped on a daily basis for ransom or just to scare them to leave," he said. "Christians are systematically targeted by kidnappings."

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genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] He said if the bishops are alive, Sabra should employ the power of his position to win their release. "George Sabra should act and he should show leadership capability, or leave," Afram said. "He should exercise direct involvement, even take risks to go himself with the army of the opposition to negotiate the release of the bishops; make a clear statement regarding his [objection] that bishops were treated like this." Nuri Kino, of Assyrian (Syriac Orthodox) background, is an award-winning TV/radio journalist now living in Sweden. In January 2013 he wrote a report, 'Between the Wire', in which he conducted more than 100 interviews with Syria's minority Christian community. He is co-author of the independently published political thriller, 'The Line in the Sand'.

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king Saudi Arabia horror sharia worldwide caliphate. [An Eritrean home. World Watch Monitor. In Eritrea, 'persecution greater than ever and getting worse' May 30, 2013]. . Religious persecution in Eritrea is at its "highest level ever and getting worse", an Eritrean ... Unemployed and Christian in Egypt: May 28, 2013. It's harder than ever to find a job in Egypt, where the unemployment rate has risen to a record 13 ... Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. May 24, 2013 by Nuri Kino. The leader of the Syrian opposition coalition is backing away from previous reports that he is ... [An Eritrean home. World Watch Monitor. In Eritrea, 'persecution greater than ever and getting worse' May 30, 2013]. Around 1,200 Christians now incarcerated after a spate of arrests in 2013. Religious persecution in Eritrea is at its "highest level ever and getting worse", an Eritrean Christian leader, who cannot be named for security reasons,

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king Saudi Arabia horror sharia worldwide caliphate. [An Eritrean home. World Watch Monitor. In Eritrea, 'persecution greater than ever and getting worse' May 30, 2013]. has told the Christian charity Open Doors International. Thirty-seven Christian students from the College of Arts and Social Sciences in the town of Adi Kihe, and five men from the Church of the Living God in Asmara, were arrested last week, taking the total number of Christians known to have been arrested this year to 191. Open Doors, a ministry to Christians who live under pressure because of their faith, estimates around 1,200 Christians are now incarcerated in Eritrea. However, some estimates claim the figure to be as high as 3,000. Churches in Eritrea have been monitored closely since May 2002, when the government closed all Protestant and Pentecostal churches which did not apply for registration with the department of Religious affairs.

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[An Eritrean home. World Watch Monitor. In Eritrea, 'persecution greater than ever and getting worse' May 30, 2013]. "When Christians are discovered, they are arrested and held in shipping containers in military camps." World Watch List. Eleven years later, there is evidence of widespread human rights abuses by the Eritrean government, according to human rights organisation, Amnesty International. "Twenty years on from the euphoric celebrations of independence, Eritrea is one of the most repressive, secretive and inaccessible countries in the world," Amnesty International's Eritrea Researcher, Claire Beston, told the BBC. In its latest report this month, Amnesty International reported evidence of "arbitrary arrest and detention without trial on a vast scale to crush all actual and suspected opposition, to silence government critics and to punish anyone who refuses to comply with the restrictions on human rights imposed by the government".

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king Saudi Arabia horror sharia worldwide caliphate. [An Eritrean home. World Watch Monitor. In Eritrea, 'persecution greater than ever and getting worse' May 30, 2013]. The government of Eritrea rejected the report as "wild accusations" and "totally unsubstantiated". However, Selam Kidane, an Eritrean expatriate and Director of Release Eritrea, a UK-based human rights organisation, told World Watch Monitor there had been an "intensification" of religious persecution since January. Selam Kidane at the European Parliament. Release Eritrea. "We can't pin it down to anything that has happened, or triggered it, but there have been lots of arrests," she said. Kidane said the Eritrean government is following the leaders of illegal underground churches to gather information and make arrests. And while religious persecution in Eritrea is not limited to Christians, Kidane said the underground Christian church has suffered most.

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king Saudi Arabia horror sharia worldwide caliphate. [An Eritrean home. World Watch Monitor. In Eritrea, 'persecution greater than ever and getting worse' May 30, 2013]. "Any religion that's not willing to come under the control of the government is being persecuted," she said. "It's not just confined to Christians. But in terms of being completely banned, it's the minority churches that have suffered the most -- the Pentecostal Church, the Evangelical Church -- they are ones that have been stigmatised and been accused of all sorts of things by their communities and by other faith groups." Almost half the population of Eritrea is Christian. Nearly nine out of 10 Christians belong to the Orthodox Church, while almost all the rest are Catholic or Protestant. Eritrea is ranked 10th on the World Watch List, which ranks the 50 countries in which Christians are most under pressure for their faith.

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king Saudi Arabia horror sharia worldwide caliphate. [An Eritrean home. World Watch Monitor. In Eritrea, 'persecution greater than ever and getting worse' May 30, 2013]. "When Christians [in Eritrea] are discovered, they are arrested and held in shipping containers in military camps. At least 105 Christians were arrested in 2012, and 31 Christians were reported to have died in prison," the World Watch List reports.[Une maison érythréenne. World Watch moniteur. En Érythrée, «persécution plus grande que jamais et s'aggrave" 30 mai 2013]. "Quand les chrétiens [en Erythrée] sont découverts, ils sont arrêtés et placés dans des conteneurs d'expédition dans les camps militaires. Au moins 105 chrétiens ont été arrêtés en 2012, et 31 chrétiens ont été déclarés morts en prison ", le World Watch rapports de liste.

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[worldwatchmonitor . org]Tehran church faces closure after pastor's arrest. Published: May 30, 2013. The future of the central Assemblies of God church in Tehran hangs in the balance, following the arrest of one of its pastors last week. Iranian authorities continue to pressure churches of Armenian or Assyrian heritage to cancel all services in the Farsi language, or face permanent closure. Egypt is at a crossroads, says Coptic Bishop. Published: May 23, 2013 OIC letter from C African Republic President sought support for Islamic republic: May 22, 2013. Bangladesh — Islamist protest leaders arrested in wake of Dhaka siege: May 21, 2013. Iranian Christians face 'systematic persecution and prosecution': May 20, 2013. Boko Haram 'on verge of seizing control of Borno State' after pastor's death: May 17, 2013. VHP leads mob to destroy Indian church: May 14, 2013. Nigeria -- Taraba State violence over funeral procession leaves at least 39 dead. Published: May 13, 2013

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mmf1396 said: I've read the Holy Bible .. but, These such as the great flood, with Noah's Ark. Oh a great flood happened, but not in the way of the bible, because there is scientific evidence to prove so...  The only wrong here is what the brainwashing religions have done to people into making them believe they will be punished . -- ANSWER -- ANCHE. l'evoluzione è una regione, e tu che, sei immerso nelle tenebre, della maschera (pelle cadavere) di un satanista, tu sei una doppia religione 666, quindi, tu sei molto religioso, in negativo, per avere peggiorato: enormemente: la tua posizione. non c'è evoluzione: tra: i fossili preistorici: e gli animali di oggi, tutto il pianeta, è la prova: del diluvio universale, in texas, noi abbiamo un: "polistrate fossil"(polidentron) di 50 metri, che, attraversa, in verticale tutte le cosiddette: ere geologiche: quindi tu molto presto diventerai una torcia umana, che, urla all'inferno

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666 CIA IHateNEWLAYOUT has posted a comment 1 hour ago @ JHWH1OsannaUniusRei 1 day to go i am going to China - ANSWER - REALLY? sorry, my friend, but, I have commanded, to my dear Chinese subjects, to kill all the priests of Satan, cannibals voodoo, like you, therefore, it is appropriate for you before you leave to make a will! ma, io ho ordinato, ai miei cari sudditi cinesi, di uccidere tutti i sacerdoti di satana, cannibali voodoo, come te, quindi, è opportuno per te, prima di partire di fare testamento!

   humanumgenus ha pubblicato un commento 3 ore fa
[10:51] 31 MAG. ROMA.. Visco, pianificare ora calo tasse, No a difesa rendite e a paura del cambiamento.. [10:57] 31 MAG. ROMA. Visco,non c'e' margine aumento disavanzo, Possibile inversione economia verso fine anno -- ANSWER -- @Visco, ragazzo, la tua intelligenza è in rotta di collisione, ti sono stati sufficienti: 6 minuti, per contraddire te stesso! non esiste una soluzione economica: al di fuori: di recuperare la sovranità monetaria: perduta, rubata, tradita! ed, in questo modo, almeno tu, non avrai spergiurato, contro, la Costituzione, come tutti gli altri!

   humanumgenus ha pubblicato un commento 3 ore fa
ROMA, 31 MAG - ''Non siamo stati capaci di rispondere ai cambiamenti geopolitici, tecnologici e demografici degli ultimi 25 anni''. Cosi' il governatore Visco secondo cui ora ''l'aggiustamento, cosi' a lungo rinviato, ha una portata storica che necessita del contributo decisivo della politica,ma anche della societa'''. Visco ha rimarcato che ''l'azione di riforma ha perso vigore anche per il deterioramento del clima politico. I politici stentano a mediare tra interesse generale e interesse particolare''. --ANSWER -- MA, che: cazzate: dice: questo Visco, per non riuscire a vedere: il baratro del signoraggio bancario: che: non potrà mai essere colmato, e che, i suoi massoni hanno regalato: al satanista, strozzino usuraio: parassita: di Rothschild il FMI? l'unica vera soluzione è fare come a Cipro e poi, distruggere il FMI..

   humanumgenus ha pubblicato un commento 3 ore fa
Gerusalemme, slogan anti-cristiani. Su, muro della Dormizione. 31 maggio, (ANSA) - GERUSALEMME, 31 MAG - ''Cristiani scimmie'': questo uno degli slogan tracciati da ignoti la scorsa notte: a Gerusalemme sui muri della Dormizione: di: Maria, una delle basiliche di Gerusalemme. Lo riferisce la radio militare israeliana.(ANSA). ..-ANSWER -- @ Benjamin Netanyahu - AMICO MIO, la RAZZA DEGLI IDIOTI? È UNA RAZZA UNIVERSALE! e poi, potrebbe essere stata la gelosia del: Re finto morto: dell'Arabia Saudita: o del suo amico, di merende: il fariseo Rothschild, a fare questo bullismo, contro, di noi! e poi, i danni che ha fatto la favole della evoluzione? sono dei danni incalcolabili ... soprattutto, contro, alla dignità della scienza

   humanumgenus ha pubblicato un commento 3 ore fa
cannibal 666 voodoo TheDemonDack ie, same: IHateNEWLAYOUT -- because, you want to tell a lie against me? I never deleted the comments on this page, and then, your channel is not locked, even, you also have the ability to write to uniusrei3@, the your problem is that you , you have nothing to say! perché, tu vuoi dire menzogne contro di me? io non ho mai cancellato i commenti su questa pagina , e poi, il tuo canale non è bloccato, anzi tu hai anche la possibilità di scrivere a uniusrei3, il problema è il tuo che, tu non hai niente da dire!

   JHWH1OsannaUniusRei ha pubblicato un commento 5 ore fa
[dove sono attivi: i satanisti istituzionali: è difficile capire veramente la verità, ma, può essere stato un auto-attacco: fatto dalla Lega ARABA, per alzare la tensione in Europa] Svizzera: sparatoria a Zurigo, feriti 2 turchi. 30 MAG 2013. (AGI) - Berna, 30 mag. [perché, non li chiamano: salafiti Occidentali? i Bildenberg, FMI-NWO, ci hanno messi sul baratro! per farci distrarre dal signoraggio bancario] .Damasco, 31-05-2013. L'esercito siriano ha ucciso tre cittadini occidentali, tra cui un britannico e un'americana entrambi di religione musulmana. I tre mercoledì, sono stati sorpresi dai soldati: con mappe di installazioni militari nella provincia settentrionale di Idlib, ha reso noto: l'Osservatorio siriano: per i diritti umani. Dagli Usa si è poi appreso: che: la donna americana morta è: una 33enne del Michigan, Monica Mansfield, convertitasi: all'Islam cinque anni fa: e andata in Siria: a combattere con i ribelli. La donna era madre single: di una figlia di 18 anni.

   JHWH1OsannaUniusRei ha pubblicato un commento 5 ore fa
[all lies: the Caliphate world: the IMF, which will lead, in the: World War] ROME, May 30 - The Syrian National Coalition: it says: "no" at the conference: 'Geneva 2' without: a prior withdrawal: of: Hezbollah and Iran: the theater of conflict. The opposition: also demands: that: Assad and those responsible: the regime leave. '' A conference: a political solution: do not, it makes sense given the massacres (the Salafists, Al Quaea, that the Jewish lobbies NetWork TV: hide) that you are consuming in the country,'' said a spokesman Coalition, calling on the international community to:'' strengthen the revolutionary forces to defend: the Syrian people (oppressed by the Arab League: nazi).'' - ANSWER - do not want peace, they seek only, to do the extermination of Christians, because, it's what their real goal! Indeed, Salafis and Pharisees, Satanists are, to made genocide: for any: destruction, against: the civilizations: the Jewish-Christian!

   JHWH1OsannaUniusRei ha pubblicato un commento 5 ore fa
you have put God: YHWH, in the asshole! ] [after having denied: that, LOVE is GOD? Because: you have denied God! now: you have profaned: LOVE, elevating him: to the dignity of marriage: the union of sterile gay! is the crime: against nature: that you do have, against: the nobility of love! you are gone: over: the legitimate protection against: homophobia, you have profaned fundamental values ​​of life! you are an imperialist ideology: homosexual: that is, the disruption of basic values ​​of society!] [tu hai messo Dio: JHWH, nel buco del culo! ora, tu devi morire! ]

   JHWH1OsannaUniusRei ha pubblicato un commento 5 ore fa
[tutte le menzogne: del Califfato mondiale: del FMI, che, porterà alla guerra mondiale] ROMA, 30 MAG - La Coalizione nazionale siriana: dice: "no" alla conferenza di 'Ginevra 2' senza, un previo ritiro: di: Hezbollah e Iran: dal teatro di conflitto. L'opposizione chiede anche: che: Assad e i responsabili: del regime lascino. ''Una conferenza: per una soluzione politica: non: ha senso visti i massacri(dei salafiti, di Al Quaea, che, il NetWork TV di lobbies ebraiche: nascondono) che, si stanno consumando nel Paese'', ha spiegato un portavoce della Coalizione, chiedendo alla Comunità internazionale, di: ''rafforzare le forze rivoluzionarie per difendere: il popolo siriano oppresso: dalla LEGA ARABA''. -- ANSWER -- non vogliono la pace, cercano, soltanto, di fare lo sterminio: dei cristiani, perché: è quello il loro vero obiettivo! infatti, salafiti e farisei sono, i satanisti del genocidio: la distruzione della civiltà: ebraico-cristiana!

   Abu Antar ha pubblicato un commento 6 ore fa
There ain't no holler back, girl.

   JHWH1OsannaUniusRei ha pubblicato un commento 6 ore fa
@ Benjamin Netanyahu - se tu vieni a prendere me? poi, tu vedrai, come, il Re dell'Arabia Saudita risuscita dai morti: immediatamente! lol.

   JHWH1OsannaUniusRei ha pubblicato un commento 6 ore fa
@ Benjamin Netanyahu - BUT, IF YOU BELIEVE yourself, to be SILLY sissy too girl? I'm ready to leave for Israel today same!

   BrotherhoodUniversal ha pubblicato un commento 6 ore fa
@ Benjamin Netanyahu - never, and never more Sharia: never more: Muslims in power, says Rothschild, but only after: 1. obtains: his World War II: to regenerate: its IMF, full: of: funds derived, which can no longer have coverage, but, only after: that, 2. six million Israelis have been exterminated .. and Israel will no longer exist .. --ANSWER -- but you act: first, act immediately: you kill, too, all the Pharisees of the IMF. because, they are the Pharisees of the IMF, the biggest threat against Israel, and against: the whole human race, because: their agenda is the kingdom of Satan, and Satan HIMSELF, that is, the occult powers Masonic Bildenberg ..

   BrotherhoodUniversal ha pubblicato un commento 6 ore fa
@ Benjamin Netanyahu - mai, più sharia e mai più: musulmani al potere, dirà Rothschild, ma, soltanto, dopo che: 1. avrà ottenuto: la sua guerra mondiale: per rigenerare: il suo FMI, pieno: di: fondi derivati, che, non possono più avere una copertura, ma, soltanto, dopo che: 2. sei milioni di israeliani saranno stati sterminati.. --ANSWER -- ed Israele non potrà più esistere.. ma, tu agisci: prima, agisci subito: tu uccidi, anche, tutti i farisei del FMI. perché, sono i farisei del FMI, la più grande minaccia: contro: Israele, e contro: tutto il genere umano, perché: la loro agenda: è il regno di satana: e per satana, cioè, i poteri occulti massonici bildenberg..

   BrotherhoodUniversal ha pubblicato un commento 6 ore fa
@ Benjamin Netanyahu - the fact that, Shia and Sunni: kill each of them very willingly, not prevent them, to be united, when the opportunity arises to come to disintegrate Israel .. - this was been, already, as in the past, therefore, a plot of the Arab League: against: you: it is something that: I consider, like, a scientific conclusion .. then, it is only: the logic of sharia! resend down, in hell, together, to their satanisco prophet, all the demons Islamists, and, thanked the beast of Muhammad, in this way, to get it done: the genocide of all Jews in his time .. are the Salafis, that: they said: to be the photocopy: of their: criminal Muhammad, after all: to make themselves responsible for: alone, of all genocides: made ​​by them, in all these: 1400 years

   BrotherhoodUniversal ha pubblicato un commento 6 ore fa
@ Benjamin Netanyahu - .. il fatto, che, sciti e sunniti, si uccidono tra di loro molto volentieri, non impedirà a loro, di essere uniti, quando si presenterà l'occasione di venire a disintegrare Israele questo è stato, già, visto in passato, quindi, un complotto della Lega ARABA: contro: di te: è qualcosa, che: io considero, come, una conclusione scientifica.. poi, è soltanto: la logica della sharia! tu rispedisci all'inferno, insieme, al loro satanisco profeta, tutti i demoni islamisti, e ringrazia: la bestia di Maometto, in questo modo, per avere fatto: il genocidio: di tutti gli ebrei al suo tempo.. sono i salafiti, che: si vantano: di essere la fotocopia: di quel criminale di Maometto, dopo tutto: per rendersi responsabili: da soli, di tutti i genocidi: fatti da loro: in tutti questi: 1400 anni

   BrotherhoodUniversal ha pubblicato un commento 6 ore fa
@Benjamin Netanyahu -[If, then, you need a strategy, intermediate, for groped to avoid: the attack nuclear: against, all the Arab League,of the Nazis: worldwide caliphate, that wont exterminate: dhimmi: this is what, you must do! ]- since, in the war of 6 days, you have immediately: an international conspiracy, warp: against: you, by Saudi Arabia.. since, it was declared: a war of aggression and extermination, then for international law, all Egyptian desert, is already yours, for international law, it is strategic: it is essential to your survival, to displace populations and weapons... if, the Salafis Egyptians: they resist? you must place: the artillery along the Red Sea: and to raze: all the cities of the coast! if you do not obey to me: Unius REI? thou passest: such as: the destruction of Israel, of the human race, and yours will be the blame for the destruction of monotheism, for allowing: the Satanist cannibals IMF: to take control of the planet

   BrotherhoodUniversal ha pubblicato un commento 6 ore fa
@Benjamin Netanyahu - strategia, intermedia, per tentare di evitare: l'attacco nuceare:contro: tutta la Lega Araba, dei Nazisti, di worldwide caliphate, per sterminare: i dhimmi: è questo che, tu devi fare] - poiché, nella guerra dei: 6 giorni, tu hai subito: un complotto internazionale, ordito: contro: di te, dall'Arabia Saudita. poiché, fu guerra dichiarata di aggressione e di sterminio, per il diritto internazionale tutto il deserto egiziano è già tuo, per il diritto internazionale, esso è strategico: indispensabile alla tua sopravvivenza, per dislocare popolazioni e armi. se i salafiti egiziani fanno resistenza? tu devi posizionare: le artiglierie lungo il mar rosso: e radere al suolo: tutte le città della costa!se, tu non obbedirai a me: Unius REI? tu passerai: come: la rovina di Israele, del genere umano, e tua sarà la colpa della distruzione: del monoteismo, per avere permesso: ai satanisti cannibali FMI: di prendere il controllo del pianeta

@Obama 666 -- vai a fare in culo, tu e il tuo finto morto Re dell'Arabia Saudita!

   lorenzojhwh ha pubblicato un commento 8 ore fa
@ Benjamin Netanyahu - you can not hope, not to be surrounded by: Salafists (Al Qaeda), then, not to make a covenant with: the Scythians, that they with you: they were been doomed to extinction, then, if an alliance is not possible? and: Assad can not be protected by you? you need to burn: with: nuclear weapons, all together: nazi Islamists, because, you can not hope to solve your problems, during the imminent World War III! - tu non puoi sperare, di non essere circondato dai: salafiti (Al Quaeda), per poi, non fare una alleanza: con: gli sciti, che, loro insieme a te: sono stati condannati alla estinzione, poi, se una allenza non è possibile? se Assad non può essere protetto: tu di devi bruciare: con le armi atomiche, tutti insieme: gli islamisti, perché, tu non puoi sperare di risolvere i tuoi problemi, durante, la imminente terza guerra mondiale!

Nuri Kino, de Asiria (siriaco ortodoxo) de fondo, es una TV / radio galardonado periodista que ahora vive en Suecia. En enero de 2013, escribió un informe, "entre el alambre ', en la que se llevó a cabo más de 100 entrevistas con minoría cristiana de Siria. Es co-autor de la novela de suspense política publicada de forma independiente, "The Line in the Sand".

genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] Published: May 24, 2013 by Nuri Kino. Syrian opposition leader gave more certain account 2 weeks ago. The leader of the Syrian opposition coalition is backing away from previous reports that he is certain of the location and condition of two Syrian Orthodox bishops kidnapped April 22. George Sabra, president of the Syrian National Coalition, told World Watch Monitor on May 21 he is not informed of the movement of the bishops from day to day, or of the identity of the captors. This is a change from May 7 statements attributed to Sabra during a meeting of Middle East leaders in Beirut. Sabra also told World Watch Monitor the coalition is "doing our best" to expel the handful of Muslims who have come from Europe at the urging of jihadist groups with al-Qaeda links who count themselves among the broader Syrian opposition movement.

genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2']  Yohanna Ibrahim, head of the Syriac Orthodox Church in Aleppo, was kidnapped alongside his counterpart from the Greek Orthodox Church, Boulos Yaziji, after travelling to the Turkish border in an attempt to secure the release of two priests kidnapped in February. Their driver, Fathallah Kaboud, later was killed. Apart from an early flurry of erroneous reports that the clerics had been released, little was heard about their whereabouts, who snatched them, or why. That changed May 7 when Amin Gemayel, former president of Lebanon and current leader of its Kataeb Party, held a meeting in his Beirut office. "The bishops are in good health and are being held by a small group in a town called Bshaqtin, 20 kilometers northwest of Aleppo,"


genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2']  Sabra told Gemayel by phone during the meeing, according to the Lebanon Star. Attending the meeting were Deputy Bishop of Aleppo Joseph Shabo, Mount Lebanon´s Syriac Orthodox Bishop George Saliba, Beirut´s Bishop Daniel Koriyeh and Syriac League President Habib Afram. Afram told World Watch Monitor the group had sought the meeting with Gemayel to seek his help securing the bishops’ release. Instead, he said, they heard Sabra tell them he was powerless to help. "During our meeting, Syrian opposition leader George Sabra spoke with both Cheikh Gemayel and Bishop Saliba over the phone. Sabra claimed that he knows where the abducted bishops are and who the kidnappers are. I find it outrageous that one of the most powerful leaders of the Syrian opposition

genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] says he knows where they are but can´t do anything to release them." Afram, Secretary General of the Union of Lebanese Christian Leagues and a prominent defender of the fate of Christians in the Middle East, said Sabra’s inability to secure the release of the bishops has troubling implications for the future of Christians in Syria. "Sabra said things like: 'This is not giving a good impression of our revolution and we promise to take all possible actions to get them released'. But that is only words," Afram said. "We emphasized that if he can´t control his own area — the place where the bishops were kidnapped — then how can he claim that he can change Syria for the better? And how will he be able to make Christians remain in Syria?"

genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] Contacted May 21 by World Watch Monitor, Sabra gave a less certain accounting of the bishops than he was reported to give May 7. "You know that the bishops are moved always day by day or from week to week. So therefore we don’t know the place exactly," he said. He also said the coalition isn’t sure who is behind the kidnappings. "About this we have different information, we have new news that we will check. We have news that they are in Aleppo. We can’t say that this information is real; we have to check." When asked how he knows the bishops are moved, if anyone has spoken to them, and if there is any evidence they are alive, he replied: "you know, by our people inside Syria that interrogated the groups."

genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2']  "Really we believe that they are alive," he said. "But there is no clear picture of that. We are doing our best, but right now we didn’t succeed." Thousands of Christians have fled the violence in Syria, and church leaders say the abductions have accelerated the exodus. Sabra said he wants Syrian Christians to remain courageous. "We are aware of the impression this gives to our revolution," he said. "But we are doing our best. Syrian Christians have been living in the country for thousands of years. And they should be courageous enough to stay in their homeland." Sabra, himself a Christian, insisted there is no evidence Syrian Christians are under pressure because of their religion, despite testimony to the contrary from Christians inside Syria and those that have fled to Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan.

genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2']  "Maybe there are some small events here and there," he said, "but we have not the right to exaggerate with these events to tell it as a fact, as a truth, of the life in Syria. Really it is not true. And the only way to protect Christians, as to protect other Syrians, is to push Bashar al-Assad’s regime out of power and start a new era in Syria with a civil state, a democratic state, with elections, constitution, a law. This is the only thing which will help all people in Syria to be protected in their country." Sabra also rejected any comparisons of the impact of Syria’s drawn-out civil war on Christian nationals to the flight of Christians from neighboring Iraq. "We have two major principal differences here in Syria,"

genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] he said. "Iraq was occupied by foreign troops, and also they have a neighbour considered an enemy to Iraqis for many years: I mean Iran. So the effect of the occupation and the effect of Iranians inside Iraq caused the situation. In Syria we have something different. I’m sure that Christians will stay and live in Syria as they did for hundreds of years. It’s their country. In Syria we have thousands of churches and nobody can prove or give one example of a church being persecuted by Muslims." Still, when pressed, Sabra acknowledged one similarity to Iraq of grave concern to resident Christians: the presence of imported Islamist militants, some of them aligned with al-Qaeda. An April report by the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation, at London’s King’s College,

genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] estimates that somewhat less than 10 percent of the opposition fighters are from outside Syria, and that between 7 percent and 10 percent of that fraction come from Europe. "We are sorry to hear about that," Sabra said. "We were informed about two young people from Belgium. Believe me, we are doing our best to contact these people and to operate with the European community and the European governments to save their lives and send them back home to their countries safely."Meanwhile, Afram said he meets with Christians that have fled Syria every day in his office in Lebanon. "People are kidnapped on a daily basis for ransom or just to scare them to leave," he said. "Christians are systematically targeted by kidnappings."

genocide of worldwide caliphate: 666 NWO. [Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts. this Salafis Al Qaeda: they have the dignity to go to conference: 'Geneva 2'] He said if the bishops are alive, Sabra should employ the power of his position to win their release. "George Sabra should act and he should show leadership capability, or leave," Afram said. "He should exercise direct involvement, even take risks to go himself with the army of the opposition to negotiate the release of the bishops; make a clear statement regarding his [objection] that bishops were treated like this."  Nuri Kino, of Assyrian (Syriac Orthodox) background, is an award-winning TV/radio journalist now living in Sweden. In January 2013 he wrote a report, 'Between the Wire', in which he conducted more than 100 interviews with Syria’s minority Christian community. He is co-author of the independently published political thriller, 'The Line in the Sand'.


Sabra dit maintenant qu'il ne savait pas où se trouvait évêques
Publié le: 24 mai 2013 par Nuri Kino
Chef de l'opposition syrienne a donné plus certain compte il ya 2 semaines

Le chef de la coalition de l'opposition syrienne s'éloigne des précédents rapports qu'il est certain de l'emplacement et l'état des deux évêques orthodoxes syriens enlevé 22 Avril.

George Sabra, président de la Coalition nationale syrienne, a déclaré à World Watch Moniteur le 21 mai, il n'est pas informé du mouvement des évêques de jour en jour, ou de l'identité des ravisseurs. Il s'agit d'un changement du 7 mai déclarations attribuées à Sabra lors d'une réunion des dirigeants du Moyen-Orient à Beyrouth.

Sabra dit aussi World Watch Surveiller la coalition est «faire de notre mieux" pour expulser les quelques musulmans qui sont venus de l'Europe à l'instigation de groupes djihadistes ayant des liens d'al-Qaïda qui se comptent parmi le mouvement d'opposition plus large syrienne.

Yohanna Ibrahim, chef de l'Eglise syriaque orthodoxe d'Alep, a été enlevé aux côtés de son homologue de l'Eglise orthodoxe grecque, Boulos Yaziji, après un voyage à la frontière turque, dans une tentative pour obtenir la libération des deux prêtres enlevés en Février. Leur chauffeur, Fathallah Kaboud, plus tard, a été tué.

Mis à part un vague début des rapports erronés que les clercs avaient été libérés, peu a été entendu sur leur sort, qui leur a arraché, ni pourquoi.

Cela a changé le 7 mai lorsque Amin Gemayel, ancien président du Liban et actuel leader de son parti Kataëb, a tenu une réunion dans son bureau de Beyrouth.

«Les évêques sont en bonne santé et sont détenus par un petit groupe dans une ville appelée Bshaqtin, à 20 kilomètres au nord-ouest d'Alep," Sabra dit Gemayel par téléphone au cours de la meeing, selon le Liban étoile .

Assister à la réunion étaient sous-évêque d'Alep Joseph Shabo, syriaque orthodoxe Mgr George Saliba du Mont-Liban, Mgr Daniel Koriyeh de Beyrouth et président de la Ligue syriaque Habib Afram.

Afram dit World Watch Surveiller le groupe avait cherché la rencontre avec Gemayel pour lui demander son aide obtenir la libération des évêques. Au lieu de cela, dit-il, ils ont entendu Sabra leur dire qu'il était impuissant à les aider.

"Lors de notre rencontre, chef de l'opposition syrienne George Sabra a parlé avec tant Cheikh Gemayel et Mgr Saliba au téléphone. Sabra a affirmé qu'il sait où les évêques enlevés et qui sont les ravisseurs sont. Je trouve scandaleux que l'un des plus puissants dirigeants des l'opposition syrienne dit qu'il sait où ils sont, mais ne peuvent rien faire pour les libérer ".

Afram, secrétaire général de l'Union des ligues chrétiennes libanaises et un défenseur de premier plan sur le sort des chrétiens au Moyen-Orient, a déclaré l'incapacité de Sabra pour obtenir la libération des évêques a troublantes conséquences pour l'avenir des chrétiens en Syrie.

"Sabra dit des choses comme:". Cela ne donne pas une bonne impression de notre révolution et nous nous engageons à prendre toutes les mesures possibles pour obtenir leur libération "Mais ce n'est que des paroles», a déclaré Afram. "Nous avons souligné que s'il ne peut pas contrôler sa propre zone - l'endroit où les évêques ont été enlevés - alors comment peut-il prétendre qu'il peut changer la Syrie pour le mieux et comment pourrait-il être en mesure de rendre les chrétiens restent en Syrie?"

Contacté le 21 mai par le World Watch Monitor, Sabra a donné un moins certaines méthodes de comptabilisation des évêques qu'il a été signalé pour donner 7 mai.

«Vous savez que les évêques sont déplacés toujours de jour en jour ou de semaine en semaine. Ainsi donc nous ne savons pas exactement l'endroit", at-il dit.

Il a également dit que la coalition n'est pas sûr de qui est derrière ces enlèvements.

"À propos de ce que nous avons des informations différentes, nous avons de nouvelles nouvelles que nous allons vérifier nous avons des nouvelles qu'elles sont à Alep Nous ne pouvons pas dire que cette information est vraie;.. Nous devons vérifier."

Quand on lui demande comment il sait les évêques sont déplacés, si quelqu'un a parlé, et s'il n'y a aucune preuve qu'ils sont en vie, il a répondu: ". Vous le savez, notre peuple à l'intérieur de la Syrie, qui ont interrogé les groupes"

"Vraiment, nous pensons qu'ils sont en vie", at-il dit. "Mais il n'y a pas d'image claire de cela. Nous faisons de notre mieux, mais pour le moment nous n'avons pas réussi."

Des milliers de chrétiens ont fui la violence en Syrie, et les chefs religieux disent les enlèvements ont accéléré l'exode. Sabra dit qu'il veut que les chrétiens syriens à rester courageux.

«Nous sommes conscients de l'impression cela donne à notre révolution", at-il dit. «Mais nous faisons de notre mieux. Chrétiens syriens qui vivent dans le pays depuis des milliers d'années. Et ils devraient être assez courageux pour rester dans leur patrie."

Sabra, lui-même un chrétien, a insisté qu'il n'y a aucune preuve chrétiens syriens sont sous pression en raison de leur religion, malgré les témoignages contraires de la part des chrétiens à l'intérieur de la Syrie et de ceux qui ont fui vers la Turquie, le Liban et la Jordanie.

"Peut-être il ya quelques petites manifestations ici et là," at-il dit, "mais nous n'avons pas le droit d'exagérer avec ces événements à raconter comme un fait, comme une vérité, de la vie en Syrie. Vraiment ce n'est pas vrai. Et la seule façon de protéger les chrétiens, à protéger d'autres Syriens, est de pousser le régime de Bachar al-Assad du pouvoir et de commencer une nouvelle ère en Syrie avec un état civil, un Etat démocratique, avec des élections, constitution, une loi. Cette est la seule chose qui aidera toutes les personnes dans la Syrie d'être protégées dans leur pays ".

Sabra a également rejeté toute comparaison de l'impact de la guerre civile de longue haleine de la Syrie sur les ressortissants chrétiens à la fuite des chrétiens d'Irak voisin.

«Nous avons deux grandes différences principales ici, en Syrie», at-il dit. "L'Irak a été occupé par des troupes étrangères, et ils ont aussi un voisin considéré comme un ennemi aux Irakiens pendant de nombreuses années: je veux dire l'Iran Ainsi, l'effet de l'occupation et de l'effet des Iraniens en Irak a causé la situation en Syrie, nous avons quelque chose de différent.. . Je suis sûr que les chrétiens vont rester et vivre en Syrie comme ils le faisaient depuis des centaines d'années. C'est leur pays. En Syrie, nous avons des milliers d'églises et personne ne peut prouver ou de donner un exemple d'une église persécutés par les musulmans ".

Pourtant, lorsqu'il est pressé, Sabra reconnu une similitude avec l'Irak de grave préoccupation pour les chrétiens résidents: la présence de militants islamistes importés, certains d'entre eux aligné avec al-Qaïda. Un rapport Avril par le Centre international pour l'étude de la radicalisation, au Collège King de Londres, estime qu'un peu moins de 10 pour cent des combattants de l'opposition sont de l'extérieur de la Syrie, et entre 7 et 10 pour cent de la fraction venir de l'Europe.

"Nous sommes désolés d'entendre parler", a déclaré Sabra. «Nous avons été informés de deux jeunes gens en provenance de Belgique. Croyez-moi, nous faisons de notre mieux pour communiquer avec ces personnes et pour fonctionner avec la communauté européenne et les gouvernements européens pour sauver leurs vies et de les renvoyer vers leur pays en toute sécurité."

Pendant ce temps, Afram dit qu'il rencontre avec les chrétiens qui ont fui la Syrie chaque jour dans son bureau au Liban. "Les gens sont kidnappés sur une base quotidienne pour obtenir une rançon ou tout simplement pour leur faire peur de partir", at-il dit. «Les chrétiens sont systématiquement ciblés par des enlèvements."

Il a dit que si les évêques sont vivants, Sabra devrait employer la puissance de sa position de gagner leur libération.

"George Sabra doit agir et il doit montrer la capacité de leadership, ou laisser», a déclaré Afram. "Il doit faire preuve de participation directe, même prendre des risques pour se rendre à l'armée de l'opposition pour négocier la libération des évêques;. Faire une déclaration claire quant à son [objection] que les évêques ont été traités comme ça"




Nuri Kino, de l'assyrien (syriaque orthodoxe) fond, est un TV / radio journaliste primé qui vit maintenant en Suède. En Janvier 2013, il a rédigé un rapport, «entre le fil», dans lequel il a effectué plus de 100 entretiens avec des minoritaires de la communauté chrétienne de Syrie. Il est co-auteur du thriller politique publiée de façon indépendante, «The Line in the Sand».

Sabra ora dice che non sa dove vescovi
Pubblicato: 24 mag 2013 da Nuri Kino
Leader dell'opposizione siriana ha dato più certo account 2 settimane fa

Il leader della coalizione di opposizione siriana si sta spostando indietro da precedenti relazioni che egli è certo del luogo e nelle condizioni dei due vescovi ortodossi siriani rapiti 22 aprile.

George Sabra, presidente della Coalizione nazionale siriano, ha detto World Watch Monitor il 21 maggio non è informato del movimento dei vescovi di giorno in giorno, o l'identità dei rapitori. Questo è un cambiamento dal 7 maggio dichiarazioni attribuite a Sabra nel corso di una riunione dei leader del Medio Oriente a Beirut.

Sabra ha anche detto World Watch Monitorare la coalizione è "fare del nostro meglio" per espellere il manipolo di musulmani che sono venuti da Europa sotto la spinta di gruppi jihadisti di al-Qaeda links che si contano tra il movimento di opposizione siriano ampio.

Yohanna Ibrahim, capo della Chiesa siro-ortodosso di Aleppo, è stato rapito insieme al suo omologo della Chiesa ortodossa greca, Boulos Yaziji, dopo un viaggio al confine turco, nel tentativo di ottenere la liberazione dei due sacerdoti rapiti a febbraio. Il loro autista, Fathallah Kaboud, poi è stato ucciso.

A parte una raffica iniziale di rapporti errati che i chierici erano stati rilasciati, poco è stato sentito sulla loro sorte, che li ha strappato, o perché.

Che ha cambiato 7 maggio quando Amin Gemayel, ex presidente del Libano e attuale leader del suo partito Kataeb, ha tenuto una riunione nel suo ufficio di Beirut.

"I vescovi sono in buona salute e sono in corso da un piccolo gruppo in una città chiamata Bshaqtin, 20 chilometri a nord-ovest di Aleppo," Sabra Gemayel ha detto per telefono durante la meeing, secondo il Libano Stella .

Presenti alla riunione erano Vice Vescovo di Aleppo Giuseppe Shabo, del Monte Libano vescovo siro ortodosso George Saliba, di Beirut Mons. Daniele Koriyeh e siriaco League Presidente Habib Afram.

Afram detto World Watch Monitorare il gruppo aveva cercato l'incontro con Gemayel a chiedere il suo aiuto garantire liberazione dei vescovi. Invece, ha detto, hanno sentito Sabra dire loro era impotente ad aiutare.

"Durante il nostro incontro, il leader dell'opposizione siriana George Sabra ha parlato sia con Cheikh Gemayel e il vescovo Saliba al telefono. Sabra ha sostenuto che lui sa dove i vescovi rapiti sono e chi sono i rapitori. Trovo scandaloso che uno dei più potenti capi di l'opposizione siriana dice di sapere dove sono, ma non possono fare nulla per liberarli. "

Afram, Segretario Generale dell'Unione delle Leghe cristiane libanesi e un difensore di spicco della sorte dei cristiani in Medio Oriente, ha detto che l'incapacità di Sabra per ottenere la liberazione dei vescovi ha preoccupanti implicazioni per il futuro dei cristiani in Siria.

"Sabra ha detto cose come:. 'Questo non sta dando una buona impressione della nostra rivoluzione e promettiamo di prendere tutte le azioni possibili per farli rilasciato' Ma questo è solo parole", ha detto Afram. "Abbiamo sottolineato che se non riesce a controllare la propria zona - il luogo in cui sono stati rapiti i vescovi - allora come si può pretendere che egli può cambiare la Siria per il meglio e come potrà essere in grado di rendere i cristiani rimangano in Siria??"

Contattato 21 maggio dal World Watch Monitor, Sabra ha dato un meno certo contabilità dei vescovi che è stato segnalato per dare 7 maggio.

"Lo sai che i vescovi sono spostati sempre di giorno in giorno o di settimana in settimana. Così dunque non sappiamo il luogo esatto," ha detto.

Ha anche detto che la coalizione non è sicuro di chi è dietro i rapimenti.

"A proposito di questo abbiamo informazioni diverse, abbiamo nuove notizie che controlleremo Abbiamo notizia che sono in Aleppo Non possiamo dire che questa informazione è vera,.. Dobbiamo controllare."

Alla domanda su come egli conosce i vescovi vengono spostati, se qualcuno ha parlato con loro, e se non vi è alcuna prova che siano vivi, ha risposto: ". Sai, dalla nostra gente all'interno della Siria che interrogati i gruppi"

"Davvero crediamo che essi sono vivi", ha detto. «Ma non c'è una chiara immagine di quello. Stiamo facendo del nostro meglio, ma per ora non ci siamo riusciti."

Migliaia di cristiani sono fuggiti dalla violenza in Siria, e leader della chiesa dicono i rapimenti hanno accelerato l'esodo. Sabra ha detto che vuole i cristiani siriani a rimanere coraggioso.

"Siamo consapevoli dell'impressione questo dà alla nostra rivoluzione", ha detto. "Ma stiamo facendo del nostro meglio. Cristiani siriani hanno vissuto nel paese per migliaia di anni. Ed essi dovrebbero avere il coraggio di rimanere nella loro patria."

Sabra, egli stesso un cristiano, ha insistito non ci sono prove cristiani siriani sono sotto pressione a causa della loro religione, nonostante la testimonianza del contrario da cristiani all'interno della Siria e di quelli che sono fuggiti in Turchia, Libano e Giordania.

"Forse ci sono alcuni piccoli eventi qua e là," ha detto, "ma non abbiamo il diritto di esagerare con questi eventi da raccontare come un dato di fatto, come la verità, la vita in Siria. Davvero non è vero. E l'unico modo per proteggere i cristiani, come per proteggere gli altri siriani, è quello di spingere il regime di Bashar al-Assad di potere e di iniziare una nuova era in Siria con uno stato civile, uno stato democratico, con elezioni, costituzione, una legge. Questa è l'unica cosa che aiuterà tutte le persone in Siria per essere protette nel loro paese ".

Sabra ha anche respinto qualsiasi confronto l'impatto di estenuante guerra civile in Siria ai cittadini cristiani alla fuga dei cristiani dal vicino Iraq.

"Abbiamo due grandi differenze principali qui in Siria", ha detto. "L'Iraq è stato occupato da truppe straniere, e anche loro hanno un vicino considerato un nemico per gli iracheni per molti anni: voglio dire l'Iran Così l'effetto dell'occupazione e l'effetto degli iraniani in Iraq ha causato la situazione in Siria abbiamo qualcosa di diverso.. . Sono sicuro che i cristiani potranno restare e vivere in Siria, come hanno fatto per centinaia di anni. E 'il loro paese. In Siria abbiamo migliaia di chiese e nessuno può dimostrare o dare un esempio di una chiesa di essere perseguitato dai musulmani ".

Eppure, se premuto, Sabra ha riconosciuto uno somiglianza con l'Iraq di grave preoccupazione per i cristiani residenti: la presenza di militanti islamici importati, alcuni dei quali in linea con al-Qaeda. Un rapporto di aprile dal Centro Internazionale per lo Studio della radicalizzazione, al College del re di Londra, stima che un po 'meno del 10 per cento dei combattenti dell'opposizione sono da fuori della Siria, e che tra il 7 per cento e il 10 per cento di quella frazione provengono dall'Europa.

"Siamo spiacenti di apprendere che", ha detto Sabra. "Siamo stati informati su due giovani provenienti dal Belgio. Credetemi, stiamo facendo del nostro meglio per contattare queste persone e di operare con la comunità europea e ai governi europei per salvare le loro vite e rimandarli a casa per i loro paesi in modo sicuro."

Nel frattempo, Afram ha detto che si incontra con i cristiani che sono fuggiti in Siria ogni giorno nel suo ufficio in Libano. "Le persone vengono rapite su una base quotidiana per il riscatto o semplicemente per spaventare loro di andarsene", ha detto. "I cristiani sono sistematicamente presi di mira dai sequestri di persona."

Ha detto che se i vescovi sono vivi, Sabra dovrebbe impiegare il potere della sua posizione per vincere il loro rilascio.

"George Sabra dovrebbe agire e lui deve mostrare capacità di leadership, o lasciare", ha detto Afram. "Lui dovrebbe esercitare un coinvolgimento diretto, anche rischiare di andare lui stesso con l'esercito dell'opposizione per negoziare la liberazione dei vescovi. Fare una dichiarazione chiara per quanto riguarda la sua [opposizione] che i vescovi sono stati trattati in questo modo"




Nuri Kino, di assiro (siro-ortodossa) di fondo, è un TV / radio giornalista pluripremiato che ora vive in Svezia. Nel gennaio 2013 ha scritto un rapporto, 'tra il filo', in cui ha condotto più di 100 interviste con minoritaria comunità cristiana siriana. E 'co-autore del thriller politico pubblicato in modo indipendente,' The Line in the Sand '.



Sabra now says he doesn't know bishops' whereabouts
Published: May 24, 2013 by Nuri Kino
Syrian opposition leader gave more certain account 2 weeks ago

The leader of the Syrian opposition coalition is backing away from previous reports that he is certain of the location and condition of two Syrian Orthodox bishops kidnapped April 22.

George Sabra, president of the Syrian National Coalition, told World Watch Monitor on May 21 he is not informed of the movement of the bishops from day to day, or of the identity of the captors. This is a change from May 7 statements attributed to Sabra during a meeting of Middle East leaders in Beirut.

Sabra also told World Watch Monitor the coalition is "doing our best" to expel the handful of Muslims who have come from Europe at the urging of jihadist groups with al-Qaeda links who count themselves among the broader Syrian opposition movement.

Yohanna Ibrahim, head of the Syriac Orthodox Church in Aleppo, was kidnapped alongside his counterpart from the Greek Orthodox Church, Boulos Yaziji, after travelling to the Turkish border in an attempt to secure the release of two priests kidnapped in February. Their driver, Fathallah Kaboud, later was killed.

Apart from an early flurry of erroneous reports that the clerics had been released, little was heard about their whereabouts, who snatched them, or why.

That changed May 7 when Amin Gemayel, former president of Lebanon and current leader of its Kataeb Party, held a meeting in his Beirut office.

"The bishops are in good health and are being held by a small group in a town called Bshaqtin, 20 kilometers northwest of Aleppo," Sabra told Gemayel by phone during the meeing, according to the Lebanon Star.

Attending the meeting were Deputy Bishop of Aleppo Joseph Shabo, Mount Lebanon´s Syriac Orthodox Bishop George Saliba, Beirut´s Bishop Daniel Koriyeh and Syriac League President Habib Afram.

Afram told World Watch Monitor the group had sought the meeting with Gemayel to seek his help securing the bishops’ release. Instead, he said, they heard Sabra tell them he was powerless to help.

"During our meeting, Syrian opposition leader George Sabra spoke with both Cheikh Gemayel and Bishop Saliba over the phone. Sabra claimed that he knows where the abducted bishops are and who the kidnappers are. I find it outrageous that one of the most powerful leaders of the Syrian opposition says he knows where they are but can´t do anything to release them."

Afram, Secretary General of the Union of Lebanese Christian Leagues and a prominent defender of the fate of Christians in the Middle East, said Sabra’s inability to secure the release of the bishops has troubling implications for the future of Christians in Syria.

"Sabra said things like: 'This is not giving a good impression of our revolution and we promise to take all possible actions to get them released'. But that is only words," Afram said. "We emphasized that if he can´t control his own area — the place where the bishops were kidnapped — then how can he claim that he can change Syria for the better? And how will he be able to make Christians remain in Syria?"

Contacted May 21 by World Watch Monitor, Sabra gave a less certain accounting of the bishops than he was reported to give May 7.

"You know that the bishops are moved always day by day or from week to week. So therefore we don’t know the place exactly," he said.

He also said the coalition isn’t sure who is behind the kidnappings.

"About this we have different information, we have new news that we will check. We have news that they are in Aleppo. We can’t say that this information is real; we have to check."

When asked how he knows the bishops are moved, if anyone has spoken to them, and if there is any evidence they are alive, he replied: "you know, by our people inside Syria that interrogated the groups."

"Really we believe that they are alive," he said. "But there is no clear picture of that. We are doing our best, but right now we didn’t succeed."

Thousands of Christians have fled the violence in Syria, and church leaders say the abductions have accelerated the exodus. Sabra said he wants Syrian Christians to remain courageous.

"We are aware of the impression this gives to our revolution," he said. "But we are doing our best. Syrian Christians have been living in the country for thousands of years. And they should be courageous enough to stay in their homeland."

Sabra, himself a Christian, insisted there is no evidence Syrian Christians are under pressure because of their religion, despite testimony to the contrary from Christians inside Syria and those that have fled to Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan.

"Maybe there are some small events here and there," he said, "but we have not the right to exaggerate with these events to tell it as a fact, as a truth, of the life in Syria. Really it is not true. And the only way to protect Christians, as to protect other Syrians, is to push Bashar al-Assad’s regime out of power and start a new era in Syria with a civil state, a democratic state, with elections, constitution, a law. This is the only thing which will help all people in Syria to be protected in their country."

Sabra also rejected any comparisons of the impact of Syria’s drawn-out civil war on Christian nationals to the flight of Christians from neighboring Iraq.

"We have two major principal differences here in Syria," he said. "Iraq was occupied by foreign troops, and also they have a neighbour considered an enemy to Iraqis for many years: I mean Iran. So the effect of the occupation and the effect of Iranians inside Iraq caused the situation. In Syria we have something different. I’m sure that Christians will stay and live in Syria as they did for hundreds of years. It’s their country. In Syria we have thousands of churches and nobody can prove or give one example of a church being persecuted by Muslims."

Still, when pressed, Sabra acknowledged one similarity to Iraq of grave concern to resident Christians: the presence of imported Islamist militants, some of them aligned with al-Qaeda. An April report by the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation, at London’s King’s College, estimates that somewhat less than 10 percent of the opposition fighters are from outside Syria, and that between 7 percent and 10 percent of that fraction come from Europe.

"We are sorry to hear about that," Sabra said. "We were informed about two young people from Belgium. Believe me, we are doing our best to contact these people and to operate with the European community and the European governments to save their lives and send them back home to their countries safely."

Meanwhile, Afram said he meets with Christians that have fled Syria every day in his office in Lebanon. "People are kidnapped on a daily basis for ransom or just to scare them to leave," he said. "Christians are systematically targeted by kidnappings."

He said if the bishops are alive, Sabra should employ the power of his position to win their release.

"George Sabra should act and he should show leadership capability, or leave," Afram said. "He should exercise direct involvement, even take risks to go himself with the army of the opposition to negotiate the release of the bishops; make a clear statement regarding his [objection] that bishops were treated like this."




Nuri Kino, of Assyrian (Syriac Orthodox) background, is an award-winning TV/radio journalist now living in Sweden. In January 2013 he wrote a report, 'Between the Wire', in which he conducted more than 100 interviews with Syria’s minority Christian community. He is co-author of the independently published political thriller, 'The Line in the Sand'.